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and again we're here inside mission

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control now while we're getting ready

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for a launch of the soyuz craft tomorrow

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uh there's some other training taking

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place here in the control center to get

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prepared for nasa's next generation

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vehicle orion and its launch taking

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place later this fall joining me again

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is flight director mike serafin who's

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going to be overseeing the team for that

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eft one exploration flight test one

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launch later this year

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mike you joined me a little bit earlier

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this year in february when we were

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talking about the recovery test out in

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the ocean that was taking place and i

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understand this week you guys are

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getting ready to do some simulations

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here in mission control now real quick

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before we get into those just for just

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in case it's the first time anybody's

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hearing about this give me a quick

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overview of what eft-1 is what you guys

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are hoping to accomplish

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right so good morning and thanks for

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having me dan um

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eft-1 is the first space flight of the

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orion capsule so we're going to fly

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orion into a high-earth orbit orbit

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and it's going to do a high energy

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return and test out the the critical

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systems required

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before we put humans on board and go

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into deep space so it'll launch out of

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cape canaveral air station on a united

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launch alliance delta iv heavy rocket

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launch complex 37 and it'll do two

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orbits around the earth and the the

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launch vehicle will boost it uh into a

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low earth orbit the first orbit on a due

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and uh it'll fly from the kennedy space

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center around the earth once at about

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100 to uh 380 nautical mile orbit and

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then on the second orbit the upper stage

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higher and it'll go into what we call a

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higher earth orbit and it'll exceed over

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3000 nautical miles what that'll do on

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of the orbit is set up a high energy

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for uh to test the heat shield and it'll

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put 85 percent of the energy into that

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capsule that it'll return from deep

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return from the moon on so it'll test

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out the heat shield and all the critical

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functions on orion and make sure that

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it's ready to go before we put humans on

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it later on and this is you know this is

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very very different reentry than we've

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know 20 30 40 years

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returning back to the apollo era

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humans beyond earth orbit and captured

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going to basically mimic and set up the

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initial conditions using the the delta

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test the capabilities of the spacecraft

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than what we've done in decades so

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doing some of that this week so tell me

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a little bit a little bit about what

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these sims these simulations are going

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to be this week you know who's getting

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involved from the flight control team

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what are you guys going to be doing

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right so i'll be here in mission control

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with my flight control team it's a

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blended team of nasa and lockheed

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folks and we'll be just down the hall in

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the blue flight control room it's where

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the international space station uh

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operations were conducted before it

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moved to the present day room ficker one

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that you see with us on tv today

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and launch control center which is uh

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configure the orion spacecraft and get

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liftoff will take over in mission

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control there'll also be a a team of

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managers located on the cape canaveral

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space center in the operations and

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checkout facility we'll all work

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was ready to come home and they were

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ready to handle any scenario and we've

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the mcc side and we're going to bring in

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the the larger engineering team and the

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mission management team and train

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together as one big orion team

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and test out the brand new program that

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different capabilities and the program

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structure and engineering team is

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different prime contractor is different

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healthy program culture and a brand new

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uh team uh the orion team and we're

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gonna test out our concept of operations

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this coming week and it's an exciting

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point because it means we're getting

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mean it it's very integrated it sounds

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like you're getting you know everybody

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actual show once it goes off

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kind of a flight or how many are you

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planning to do over the next year or so

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time frame uh whenever the spacecraft is

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ready so we'll do about a dozen sims by

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involve the mission management team and

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the engineering team and and really

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flesh out that that concept of

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operations for the launch to flight

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management team and again it's it's all

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new interfaces uh some of its brand new

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ground infrastructure uh and uh the team

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sat in those roles before they may have

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supported operations or engineering in

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different programs before but uh this

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being a brand new program uh folks have

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really never sat in that seat before so

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we're gonna understand our own roles and

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responsibilities as well as how to

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interact with the other team members uh

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as a as a large team and uh and

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successfully fly around together this

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second orbit it is going to separate

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attitude control system its own flight

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computers its own guidance and

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safe to put humans on board for

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downstream flights and that the heat

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shield and all the other critical

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components do their job and if if we

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learn that there's a little less margin

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going to find that out in an unmanned

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flight test configuration and then we'll

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human space flight later on is is safe

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okay well big flight coming up big sims

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got to be getting excited that you know

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it's almost here yeah um my team's ready

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we're all on the same page and that's

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the all the players and i'm sure we're

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training opportunities but also for the

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mission and that's why we train is to is

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to really pound flat the the plan that

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aren't any soft spots and if we do find

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make sure that that as a team and as as

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team that we're ready to go and and i

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look forward to it again this this means

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that we're getting close to flying and

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we're going to fly this fall oh yeah all

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right well again mike sarafin nasa

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flight director who's going to be

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overseeing exploration flight test 1

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later this year going to be doing some

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sims this week as they continue to march

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forward towards that launch date again

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the first flight into space of nasa's

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as always you can visit nasa.gov orion

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for all the latest in the program news

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pictures everything you could possibly

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want to see mike thanks so much for

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joining me here today i'll probably see

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you in the sim room a little bit later